Originally by: DB Preacher

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Edited by: DB Preacher on 05/01/2007 11:01:40

Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii

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And taking on Goonswarm and "wiping them off the face of 0.0" was brave was it ? And btw.. you failed.

Oh thats right, you wanted them dead over that forum post. BoB spin ?

Alliaanna

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/me looks at syndicate... hmm, no goons.

but WTF does that have to do with what I wrote above?

Perhaps I'm not being clear enough.

D2 are an insignificant alliance with no real victories to date over any alliance of any significance in the game.

They are an alliance filled with industrialists and newbs.

They know if they were to try and *bring* it against BoB it would be nothing but a massive failure from start to finish and would end up with them losing all of their 0.0 space.

That is why they have chosen to attack ISS instead in a vain effort to keep their ever decreasing pool of pvp'ers from leaving the game. Nothing more, nothing less.

weak.

dbp

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Originally by: The Anointed

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*/Start Pure speculation*

D2 want to fight BoB, but know what will happen, so they decide to get involved in a cluster bang in the south that always had the potential to draw in BoB.

D2 Smack a bit on the forums, try and make new friends, and wait....

*/End Speculation*

What started as ISS steamrolling IAC (according to ISS posts) has suddenly turned into something pretty epic.

For my own enjoyment I would love to see BoB in there.

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: jernej

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Originally by: Dekiri

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First of all goons have OUTPOSTS now again and they are "well established" at the moment wich means that you completly failed in whiping them off the map forever.

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'Well established' as RA pets ?
They are even afraid to be on the map

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Jernej.. thats a very poor argument... what are poor Xelas and the poor FIXies gonna think now?

According to you they are like goons actually dead and only kept alive by the grace of BoB.

Might wanna re-think that line of thought.

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: thoth foc

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d2 jumps on a bandwagon to shoot an industrial corp about half it's size? i know i'm impressed

Does d2 think IAC+RAGOONS+AAA arent good enuff?

Where does d2 see the flaw in the current gangbangers against ISS, that they feel they are better?

It's always sad to see alliances to weak to fight an enemy face to face, 1 on 1.. No respect is deserved for this

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Thoth comeon you guys are smarter than that... D2 are trying to draw you out....

This will accomplish two things.

1) It will confirm to their new allies that MC/LV/BoB/ISS etc.. are all in eachothers pocket. thus cementing any new relationship and confirming the wisdom of it in the first place.

2) It draws BoB out to defend what is theirs..... and with every BoB post it becomes more and more obvious that BoB has some huge interests in ISS. ISS neutrality is now history.

Ofc I could be wrong... but thats the picture that is developing.

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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Nez, I can only hope that you are playing devil's advocate and not really that silly to miss the whole point of this conversation although I fear it's the latter since you and Eddz first brought BoB up in this conversation.

Let me make it clear.

ISS have nothing to do with BoB at all. If they lost every station in the game it would have no more an effect on our alliance than if CDC lost all their stations (I don't even know if they have any tbh).

The only response here is mine, and it's personal, and it's pretty simple....

Look beyond the tags and think historically about what D2 have done.

Then consider putting them on a pedestal and whether they are worth it or not.

dbp

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/01/2007 11:25:17

Originally by: Plan Neun

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No one needs the Devils advocate when ur around pumping out ur propaganda lies.
But then again ur in RKK so ur partly forgiven.

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Where is the propoganda lies?

I asked the readers to name one instance of *something* that D2 had done that none of the other big alliances had done.

Something that has shaped eve, something that has given the rest of eve reason to believe they are something other than their reality.

I've showed you the reality of D2, whether you believe it or not is up to you.

If at the very least, I have made you look at the facts then it will be worth it... these are not facts I am portraying but ones you have to look at for yourself. Look into an alliance that is supposedly a *danger* to BoB and therefore one of the big five.. well four now I guess with ASCN being dissolved.

Just ask yourself this.

With everything you have seen of D2 and with all the background knowledge on the corps involved, do you honestly believe that D2 deserve their place in the big four power blocks in eve and if so, do you honestly believe that they could actually affect or have any effect on us as an alliance?

And finally leading on from that, if we move on them, do you honestly believe they will withstand that?

dbp

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/01/2007 11:47:59

Originally by: Plan Neun

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You may twist everything to ur own end of perceptions priestess, it does mean that it is more truth in ur statements. And debating "what if statements" is utterly meaningless.

Cheers.

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What?

I'm not twisting anything.

If your perception of my posts is one that you can't even take off your bob-hate glasses for two seconds to read beyond that and use your own brain and look at D2 for yourself then don't call me a propoganda liar.

There was not one thing I lied about above, I merely remonstrated a desire for the rest of eve to look at D2 historically and structurally as an alliance.

There was no WHAT IF???? question in my post above. There was simply a "look at D2 yourself" statement and decide on your own opinion, without any input from me.

If you don't wish to do that then fine, you are a simply victim of the propoganda yourself... closed to the reality of eve that anything I say is automatically incorrect because of the alliance I fly with.

dbp

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/01/2007 11:59:18

Originally by: Plan Neun

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Ofcourse ur not twisting everything coz ur so very neutral in this matter, right!
But I can go and talk to wall and spray it with BoB, everyone who has particapted since 2003/2004 knows ur twisting history and lying.

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Amusing.

You are so deluded in your hatred for us and for BoB that you can't look at D2 by yourself and decide for yourself whether or not they are what they say they are.

Congrats, you now have no ability to think for yourself.

I can just hope the rest of eve hasn't gone through that reverse evolution. :/

dbp

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